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Mourinho out
Couldn’t watch the game. I’m at that point of where it’s beyond infuriating to watch, even more so because you know exactly what you’ve let yourself in for.
I’m not sure what other Spurs fans are thinking right now, but I’d really like to see 2/3 more defeats in a row so that it sets off a chain of events that results in Jose’s dismissal.
Whoever didn’t see tonight coming might be an ostrich. The lack of a reaction to previous efforts is shocking but, at exactly the same time, what we knew to expect.
I could actually see Levy sticking with him even with 5 defeats, however, the toxic environment behind the scenes will become so apparent that he’ll be forced to take action. Surely? More like hopefully.
With how it’s all shaping up, we are losing Kane this summer. We will probably lose Lloris as well. How much will Sonny and Tanguy want to stick around? So Levy needs to decide how attractive he can make the club to whoever is bonkers enough to take the striker burden on.
Since day 1 I’ve been ‘Jose out’ (which I know some people disagree with but, hey, I hate love to say I told you so). He has had his time, his spring and summer were many years ago, and we truly do now sit in a winter of discontent.
Even Levy can see that he doesn’t spend £15m per year or whatever it is to fight for 7th place in the league and to get to a league cup final where we will be absolutely walloped. All whilst showing no identity, no spirit, no camaraderie and generally no f*cking idea.
Get rid. Sharpish.
Glen, Angry Spur (until he’s given the elbow)
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Jose has to be sacked immediately.
Only 34 mins in and this is without doubt the most miserable, embarrassing and depressing game I’ve ever had the misfortune to witness and there’s been a lot.
Dave, Winchester Spurs.
See I mock Arsenal for being unpredictable and all David Luiz like, but at least it causes one to feel something, I presume.
Jon (apparently a nihilist now), Lincoln
AVB in?
After another abject performance, my fellow Spurs supporting mate and I discussed who we would like to see replace Jose whenever the inevitable happens.”Rodgers or Hasenhuttl could be good for us”, I say, “two managers with modern tactics, who get the best out of their teams. 9-0 losses aside.”
He responds, and I can’t believe I’m actually writing this – “Would you take AVB back?”
AVB. Andre Villas-Boas. AV f*cking B.
Now no offence to the man, but it’s hardly like he’s been pulling up trees since he left us 7 years ago. He tried to become a motorsport driver ffs. He literally got sacked by Marseille the other day after doing as decent a job as you’d expect for someone at Marseille. I laughed so hard I messaged all my mates to tell them, then decided I had to tell the mailbox.
Honestly it cheered me up.
Fionn, Dublin. (Probably Jose Out, definitely not AVB in)
Liverpool are the new Leicester
Last season, before the onset of pandemic, I wrote to Football365 and stated my opinion that 2019/2020 Liverpool were the luckiest team in PL’s history.
This observation was manifold: they were winning a ridiculous number of games by the odd goal, deflections (Burnley away), goalkeeping errors by hitherto reliable keepers (last minute Hendersson error, Sheff Utd away in a 0-1 win), reliable players missing open goals (Son missing an empty goal at Anfield with Spurs 0-1 up, Liverpool winning the match 2-1), total lack of injuries, which was all the more remarkable given Liverpool’s high-intensity style, etc. etc. etc.
I faced a barrage of anger and spite from entitled & delluded Liverpool fans. My view was that this Liverpool team was indeed good, but no way were they 30 points better than everyone else, & only astonishing luck had them so far ahead of the rest. Indeed, the measure of a great team is the nuber of trophies you win in a season, not how many points you win the league by. The great Fergie United teams often won doubles, & that treble of course. Liverpool were dumped out of all cup competitions pretty early last year.
Another measure of truly great sides is successfully defending their title. Only Fergie’s United (on myriad occasions), & Mourinho’s Chelsea (once), & Pep’s City (once) have done that, not even Arsenal invincibles managed to retain their title.
So, to me, Liverpool’s current plight/league position is no surprise. In the absence of ridiculous luck, they’ve reverted to their mean. This is as good as this Liverpool side is. IMHO, they’re 3rd best side in PL, behind the 2 Manchester clubs. Sure, injuries have hit them hard, but the early season results (with no injuries) weren’t that great either, remember 7-2 drubbing against Villa?
And the future isn’t that bright either! Most of their star players are approaching 30, & are regressing. And Klopp has no track record of re-building teams, a la Fergie. At Dortmund, the side that had won 2 titles, were fighting a relegation battle in his last season there.
In summary, Liverpool are no better than Leicester in 2016, win the title and then get nowhere near retaining it. And my prediction is that they’ll not win it again under Klopp.
Fred (My beloved Spurs are pants, I want Jose gone!), London
Rip Liverpool apart
Totally disagree with M4RCU5X15,CFC (ctrl+c, ctrl+v). Over the past few seasons, Liverpool have established themselves as credible title challengers, won a Champions League (and reached a final), brought home their first Premier League trophy and did all of it playing delightful football. However, none of that excuses a home loss to Brighton.
We should absolutely rip the team apart and start again. Let’s sell Salah, Mane and Firmino in their peak years. We should sell Van Dijk while we can as he’s probably now injury prone. In fact, I’d suggest replacing Klopp with Stevie G – he wouldn’t have let our title defence slip so easily.
Den Norris, LFC
It was interesting to see the approach of some Liverpool fans declaring they should cash in on some of their top stars now to fund the next wave of success. First of all I don’t have any problem with that as a principle, obviously timing is everything in these situations. However, more importantly – who exactly is going to, or able to give Liverpool the money they would want for Salah (for example). Going by the history of transfers in football you could say Salah should fetch £100m (for arguments sake), but the financial ar$e has just dropped out of football. Have you seen the trouble that Real Madrid and Barcelona are in? No way will those two do their usual ‘puff chest out big money signing, we’ll show you all who is top dog around here’. Would PSG pay that sort of money, it would seem their more interested trying to spend their money keeping Mbappe and Neymar rather than throwing £100m at Salah. Chelsea? City? I just can’t see it, particularly Man City who whilst they spend a lot it doesn’t tend to be that sort of figure on 29 year olds – particularly knowing they have a nice cheque to a rival. Now we come to Bayern, well they have Lewandowski who is better and only a couple of years older, why would they trade down for £100m?
Teams are having to be far more creative in the transfer market, actually lets revise that, big teams are having to be far more creative in the transfer market now – I’m sure a lot of smaller teams don’t just go after the flavour of the month at the top of their budget. You only have to look at the relative lack of spending in the last two windows to see things have changed massively without fans pouring money in to clubs. Also look at the amount of loan deals going on, sometimes with options to buy or obligations to buy, clubs’ accountants are having to get very creative. I think this may take some time to reset itself so clubs are going to either stick with what they have, find some bargain players, or sell stars cheaper than the market 2 years ago would have dictated. We often talk about a players value and it is often argued a player’s value is only what another club is willing to pay for them. That rings quite true at the moment.
Maybe I’m wrong and Real Madrid find a way to sell their training ground to the Spanish Government (again) only to buy it back at a fraction of the cost and have a nice cash injection to spend £100m of Salah but I just don’t see it.
Rich (AFC)
Liverpool fluke
I always like to think of what a team can truly achieve — and how they will be remembered.
For example, the great Milan side with my three fellow countrymen, Cruyff’s Ajax.. Cruyff’s Barca.. Pep’s Barca.
Real Madrid winning three in a row, United dominating the league for well over a decade.. etc etc.
For the past few years or so I’ve had Liverpool earmarked for such greatness, winning the champions league, then the league..
But with if this thought needs readjusting, what if Liverpool’s CL and PL win is just an upgraded Leicester EPL win?
Dynasty or fluke?
Stijn (brackets still a thing?) Amsterdam
Liverpool schadenfreude
As a City supporter, I’m loving the Liverpool schadenfreude as much as the next fan. It is, of course, almost certainly premature. Whilst it’s not impossible for City to go unbeaten for all or most of the rest of the season, it IS highly improbable.
This has been the craziest PL season ever, so quite why pundits and mail boxers alike think it’s a done deal for my beloved Blues is beyond me. There’ll be more twists and turns yet.
It’s also no coincidence that you’ll not hear any City fan claiming the title, or any other trophy this season for that matter. We know better! And especially when we’re only 3 points ahead of (ahem) ‘them’. And for those that say City are Imperious whilst United are a mess and led by a PE teacher, I’d point out that both can’t be true if the difference in the table is the winning or losing of a single game. The table doesn’t lie and all that.
Further, and as Sky, as per, continue to ramp up Sunday’s ‘clash’ (why is it always a ‘clash’?), what’s the chances that it will be a cagey affair with both wishing to avoid a loss rather than gambling on a win? You’d think His Majesty King Josep would go for it, but we know he has form on occasion for doing the opposite.
So, whilst I’d love to see pictures of the Tooth-Meister with two pencils up his nose and his underpants on his head in the dugout at Anfield repeating the word ‘wibble’, I doubt my wish will come true. Also, and unless it becomes clear he has lost the dressing room, the ‘Pool simply have too many quality players to be written off as mere combatants for a ‘top-four trophy’. I’d be surprised if they don’t yet have a say in both City and United’s season.
Mark (Praying I’m wrong about Sunday, mind) MCFC.
Liverpool lumping
The levels of joy, ignorance and nastiness that follows a Liverpool defeat as surely as night follows day made me wonder why rivals try to lump a fanbase into one category.Is it because reality is not as fun as fantasy?
The truth is every single club has passionate fans, every club has stupid fans and every club has nasty fans.
You simply cannot say ALL Liverpool fans are arrogant and entitled because the millions of people who happen to support the same club have very different personalities.
I’d understand it more if our motto was along the lines of ‘GGMU Not Arrogant Just Better’ or our main song was laughing at the misfortune of others – looking at you Chelsea fans.
We don’t sing about JT slipping over and crying in the CL final EVERY SINGLE time we play you . . .
It would be as random and wrong as saying every person with dark brown hair is an undesirable who is likely to look you in the eye, shake your hand while sleeping with the love of your life behind your back. Now I’ve said that JT and Giggsy spring to mind . . . perhaps I’m onto something here!
Jo (now planning to avoid people with dark brown hair forever) Kent
Mailbox nonsense
That mail by Tim (CFC) Ireland was the biggest load of nonsense that I’ve seen in your mailbox since I started writing in over 10 years ago*.
Does someone scan these mails before they go in? If not, you should start doing it.
If you’re desperate for mails then let me know and I’ll send you in a few missives to talk about something tangible**.
That would be much better than Tim (CFC) Ireland acting like a ‘tough guy’ talking about all the reasons why Tickner will fail because he’s a Spurs fan.
For the love of God – grow up – Tim comes across as furthering an unhelpful national stereotype – your readers don’t think you’re cool for having a go at people.
Long story short – tell Tim to think before he types!
Ed Quoththeraven
*It obviously wasn’t, there have been tons worse to give Tim some credit
**Remember how much everyone enjoyed it when I was in the mailbox all the time?
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